'Raymond Wiley and Joe McFall are the former co-hosts of Out There Radio, a 50 episode podcast of interviews and discussions covering topics related to the occult, conspiracy theory and the paranormal. Raymond and Joe have been in podcasting since 2005, having started Out There Radio shortly after they met and realized their shared interest in fringe topics.'
On this conspiracy-laden episode Raymond and Joe feature an interview with Jim Marrs, author of Above Top Secret, as well as numerous other fortean bestsellers. Jim talks about many of the subjects covered in his books, and gives his insights into the ups and downs of the conspiracy subculture. (Disinformation podcast).